Yeah, there was scientific advancement outside of "christian" europe that is. In India, China etc. Islamic societies were more or less stagnant though. Their "advancements" came the recently converted, pre-islamic works or scientists that were considered to be bordering on apostasy.
One could argue that it was the Christians who kept science alive from 400 CE till the end of the dark ages, because they kept all the scientific research alive via being the only sources of education. Without Christians, scientific research would have fallen even further behind.
Life was extremely difficult for the Europeans following the fall of the Roman Empire. Facing invasions from Muslims from north Africa, Magyars from the Balklands, and Vikings from Scandinania, there was little refuge. The average peasant was either being killed by foreign invaders or by starvation. Imagine your life is filled with pain and suffering, and that is all you ever knew. You are illiterate, poor, half-starved, and filthy. Then some monk tells you you can reach salvation and leave this living hell just by believing in the Lord Jesus. Really, who would refuse? and honestly, were the Christians the only people on the planet at this time you call "the christian dark ages"? Were Muslims like Avicenna and Al Razi not developing Algebra and making huge leaps in the fields of medicine? Were the Chinese not making gunpowder and the compass? What the hell is with all the hatred against Christians lately? Have their beliefes insulted you? Get over it. 98% of christians are nice, peaceful people, the other 2% are the doomsayers and gay-haters that play into the stereotype and draw criticsim from everyone, including other christians. This kind of injustice really pisses me off.
i would like to say this before religion civilizations (ie governing bodies) didt exist chew on it it is used to lead weaker minded people to docility so the truly strong can lead
Oh my god reading you guys argue like that made mel augh so hard! i think that you guys (especially that christian dude writing 10,000 word essays) are taking it a little far...no, i think its all the christian dude...I think the funniest think on here was how much he was defending" the name of the lord, HALLELUJAH!" not the picture!! LOL!!
Actually, most eastern (large) cultures had peaked and were in a relaxed golden age ou going through transition. The American continent had very little to show for science, besides astronomy(which was arguably the most advanced in the world) and farming, again, much due to religious pressure (wheel-like devices(circular in shape) were sacred and not to be used as tools. Europe was sorting itself out into the known borders of today(but still far from getting there),with a few classical universities popping up, mostly interested in classic knowledge. The real modern scientific advance, in pure fields such as mathematics and everything related to engineering was taking place in the extremely well established moorish and islamic civilizations in Northern Africa and the middle east.
While we were gobbing food with our hands afraid of the all-mighty lord, moorish invaders brought with them cuttlery, general mill technology, mathematics, writing systems, improved bridge/castle/large scale construction. And then we called crusade and threw them down a violence and decay spiral that lasted centuries and ultimately gave birth to modern day islamic fundamentalism. GO CATHOLICS!
Yeah, there was scientific advancement outside of "christian" europe that is. In India, China etc. Islamic societies were more or less stagnant though. Their "advancements" came the recently converted, pre-islamic works or scientists that were considered to be bordering on apostasy.
Not hilarious, just the willfully ignorant laughing in self-righteous assumption at what they think is clever.
One could argue that it was the Christians who kept science alive from 400 CE till the end of the dark ages, because they kept all the scientific research alive via being the only sources of education. Without Christians, scientific research would have fallen even further behind.
Life was extremely difficult for the Europeans following the fall of the Roman Empire. Facing invasions from Muslims from north Africa, Magyars from the Balklands, and Vikings from Scandinania, there was little refuge. The average peasant was either being killed by foreign invaders or by starvation. Imagine your life is filled with pain and suffering, and that is all you ever knew. You are illiterate, poor, half-starved, and filthy. Then some monk tells you you can reach salvation and leave this living hell just by believing in the Lord Jesus. Really, who would refuse? and honestly, were the Christians the only people on the planet at this time you call "the christian dark ages"? Were Muslims like Avicenna and Al Razi not developing Algebra and making huge leaps in the fields of medicine? Were the Chinese not making gunpowder and the compass? What the hell is with all the hatred against Christians lately? Have their beliefes insulted you? Get over it. 98% of christians are nice, peaceful people, the other 2% are the doomsayers and gay-haters that play into the stereotype and draw criticsim from everyone, including other christians. This kind of injustice really pisses me off.
As Karl Marx once said, religion is the opium of the people, or in other words, mind-control.
i would like to say this before religion civilizations (ie governing bodies) didt exist chew on it it is used to lead weaker minded people to docility so the truly strong can lead
It's absolutely valid, especially in relation to physics and mathematics, where virtually nothing was achieved between Pythagoras and Galileo.
Oh my god reading you guys argue like that made mel augh so hard! i think that you guys (especially that christian dude writing 10,000 word essays) are taking it a little far...no, i think its all the christian dude...I think the funniest think on here was how much he was defending" the name of the lord, HALLELUJAH!" not the picture!! LOL!!
Actually, most eastern (large) cultures had peaked and were in a relaxed golden age ou going through transition. The American continent had very little to show for science, besides astronomy(which was arguably the most advanced in the world) and farming, again, much due to religious pressure (wheel-like devices(circular in shape) were sacred and not to be used as tools. Europe was sorting itself out into the known borders of today(but still far from getting there),with a few classical universities popping up, mostly interested in classic knowledge. The real modern scientific advance, in pure fields such as mathematics and everything related to engineering was taking place in the extremely well established moorish and islamic civilizations in Northern Africa and the middle east.
While we were gobbing food with our hands afraid of the all-mighty lord, moorish invaders brought with them cuttlery, general mill technology, mathematics, writing systems, improved bridge/castle/large scale construction. And then we called crusade and threw them down a violence and decay spiral that lasted centuries and ultimately gave birth to modern day islamic fundamentalism. GO CATHOLICS!
you people are so damn critical !
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